Quote of the Day
posted by Tofumar 3 months 1 week ago • 268 views
I found this great quote via Andrew Sullivan. I think it really gets to the heart of the issue of why some are so desperate to mix conservative politics and religious fundamentalism.

It's from Philip Wentworth's 1932 article on how college destroyed his faith:

It is no accident...that the groups which are demanding ever more stringent laws to regulate our private lives are identical, almost to a man, with the religious groups in the population. It makes no difference whether they are Protestants clamoring for stricter enforcement of prohibition or Catholics agitating for stricter legislation regarding the dissemination of birth-control information. In both instances increasing pressure is being brought to bear upon government to take over the practical functions of religion--and for the obvious reason that religion, in its decay, is no longer able to do its work in the world. (Emphasis mine).


To me, this seems exactly right, but I wanted to consult with the SiftMind to see if I (or Wentworth) are off base.

Discuss.





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Wentworth is exactly right, but you, however, are completely off base. Figure that one out, atheisifter.


written by kronosposeidon  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^ You have just blown my tiny, feeble, irreligious mind.


written by Tofumar  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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That "pressure" Wentworth describes has always been around. The Founding Fathers were geniuses to divorce religion and government, and when there is an unholy marriage of the two, it's religion that loses the most.

I don't think the religious (im)posers in the West are trying to get government to back their religion because they fear its decay. (If any religion would collapse without a theocracy carrying a sword to back it up, it's Islam).

The funda-mental-cases in politics do it for the same reason the GREENvangelicals force their BS on the public: they seek power and have no other means to get it.


written by quantumushroom  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Religion no longer has the stranglehold on people that it used to (see the Catholic Church and the dark ages) and the coffers are getting empty. This means that for religion to continue to control the masses, it has to go though our policital system and the democratic process. The organized religions have simply lost their power and are desperately clinging on.

If you follow the evolution of religions, they are slowly dwindeling away. It's a large version of the "God in the gaps"-argument. As we close the gaps, god slowly dwindles away with no place to hide. And as power goes out to the people, the centralized religious powers vanishes.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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