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Maddow on the F-22 Raptor

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The raptor has finally been killed.

Maddow reviews the history behind this $356M jet (each) and lays out some of its mindboggling features.

For example, for every hour this baby spends in the air, 30 minutes of maintenance are required.

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I thought it was great when this happened. I do think it's funny, however, that the plane shown being assembled a 2:47-2:55 isn't the F-22 Raptor, it's the F-35 Lighting II...The F-22's replacement. Bad research intern, no donut.

written by R0SENCRANTZ | 3 weeks 5 days ago | CH

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was gonna sift this

will suck if we have to fly sucky planes while the aliens send spaceships down

written by marinara

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There is a rumor that the F117 shot down in Serbia was a result of the radar operators detecting the plane's path through the rain. I wonder if this is the "vulnerability to rain" she mentions.

written by schmawy

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*wings. and I think she said 30 hours of maintenance for each hour in flight(?) ^schmawy: b-2 and other stealth aircraft also had problems with radar absorbing surfaces... nobody really knows how the f117 over serbia was shot down, the serbs claim it was a modified sa-3 goa missile with the help of czech made tamara radar system which used some kind of ir recognition system... who knows. maybe it was a planning error - serbs had a spy in nato hq at the time and supposedly knew the routes and other operational details of us bomber missions over serbia

written by kulpims

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Adding video to channels (Wings) - requested by kulpims.

written by siftbot

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We should keep building them and selling them to other countries. Specifically to countries we might expect to go to war with in the relatively near future... Korea, Iran, Pakistan. That way, when they attack us, we can destroy their entire air force with a fleet of fire department tanker trucks.

written by xxovercastxx

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I wonder if a single F22 could beat 15 UAV Predators

written by raverman | 3 weeks 4 days ago | CH

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Wow, Rachel really shot herself in the foot there at the end. You can't rant about how totally useless a piece of equipment is then be all afraid of how it might be used against us... that's a Republican tactic. Bad, Rachel, bad.

written by MaxWilder

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1 critical failure for every 1.7hours of fly time..
that sounds a bit extreme.
i wonder if they counted crashed prototypes into this equation?
or chipped paint on a screw holding a cover of an altimeter indicator is counted as "critical failure"

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Yeah, that failure rate seems... Well, unbelievable. In fact I don't believe it until they elaborate. And I thought one of the points of the F35 was that it was an "F22 Lite" the USA could afford to sell to other countries without revealing all their super secret technology? Though now it seems they were just too embarrassed to let anyone see it.

Air supremacy fighters are pretty much a moot point in todays warfare anyway. The face of warfare has changed so much in the last 20 or so years it's difficult to imagine a conflict where a nimble dogfighter would be necessary for success. Still, I liked the idea of the F22. Though I would have preferred the RAH-66 Comanche to see the light of day, maybe they could've afforded that one if the F22 had been given up early. That thing was stunning and the old Kiowa (I understand that the Comanche was supposed to be a recon chopper, a replacement for the Kiowa, at least partially. If you know better feel free to correct me.) really is getting old.

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I know that one of those failures was caused by a pen that fell out of a crew chief's pocket and was sucked into the intake, completely fouling the engine. Foreign Object Debris(FOD) is a problem for all aircraft but I've seen lots of crap scraped out of an F-18 and some of it was probably a pen at one point. Most aircraft just chew that stuff up and you don't notice it until it's time for maintenance. This actually grounded the plane.

Also, I should point out that the F22 isn't really a "nimble dogfighter" in the traditional sense. If you're flying circles around other planes in one of these then you have failed as an F22 pilot. While it is in theory a decent dogfighter it's intended that it never be in a dogfight, having shot down the enemy aircraft long before establishing visual contact and ideally without them ever knowing where the missile came from.

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Not to mention Gandhi made warfare itself obsolete...
-Karl

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This is an attack on all our freedoms. We are emboldening the terrists!

written by Throbbin

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>> ^MaxWilder:
Wow, Rachel really shot herself in the foot there at the end. You can't rant about how totally useless a piece of equipment is then be all afraid of how it might be used against us... that's a Republican tactic. Bad, Rachel, bad.

actually not really.
this would be a useful tool if the U.S. picked a fight with a country that had a chance to fight on equal ground.
these things were made to win the modern fighters.. unfortunately they never get the chance unless the U.S. either attacks or sells them to a first world country to use against another first world country.

much like a sniper rifle is a fine weapon, but if you're hunting for mice in your house it's useless.. use mouse traps and poisoned cheese instead.

written by shole

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